Malkin: The McCain campaign’s classless cowards (2)
Posted on 06 November 2008 by Jack
The anonymous trashing of Sarah Palin by blabbermouth McCain aides who are leaking to Fox News is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.
Allah’s got the vid clip of a report citing unnamed McCain staffers accusing Palin of lacking, in Carl Cameron’s words, “knowledgeability.” More slime here. And here.
At least all the Hollywood and Manhattan Palin-haters were willing to sign their names and put their faces on their attacks.
Let’s assume the rumor-mongers are telling the truth for a moment. Who does it damn more: Sarah Palin or McCain and his vetters who green-lighted her for the vice presidential nomination? Don’t need an Ivy League degree to figure that one out.
Sarah Palin worked her heart out. She energized tens of thousands to come out who would have otherwise stayed home. She touched countless families. I didn’t agree with everything she said on the campaign trail. But two fundamental conservative stands she took mattered greatly to me: She vigorously defended the Second Amendment and the sanctity of life more eloquently in practice than any of the educated conservative aristocracy.
And she did it all with a tirelessness and infectious optimism that defied the shameless, bottomless attempts by elites in both parties to bring her and her family down.
Shame on the smearers who don’t have the balls to show their faces.
Thank you, Sarah Palin. Thank you for stepping up the plate and serving your country.
Note: Michelle can be over the top a lot of the time but on this one she’s exactly right. I would add it’s small wonder McCain lost. I hope Sarah sues for defamation. She definitely has a case.
Updated Note: 7:00 pm and gone.
Goodnight.
Popularity: 32% [?]
November 6th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
… or she could have actually been that unpleasant. Her acolytes refuse to consider this possibility.
As said before, she will likely be getting no GOP invitation in 2012.
November 6th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
I don’t believe a word of it. One of these stupid SOB’s was fired although he’s denying it and now he’s trying to get even. It’s a classic smear job and if I were Sarah I’d yank his sorry ass right into court and make him prove every damned thing he’s been saying. Not just him — all of them!
November 6th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Heh…
One of our fellow contributors raised the possibility that Palin was pulled into all of this because the GOP brass knew they had a good chance of losing and wanted to pin it all on someone they considered disposable. That theory would be a worthy alternative to “Sarah is an idiot”. Personally … I’d say it’s a bit of both.
BTW, the GOP are sending lawyers to Alaska to retieve some of the clothes and other things from Sarah. Lawyers. That’s not friendly.
November 6th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
I AM SO FURIOUS ABOUT THIS, I AM ALSO ANGRY AT FOX AND CAMERON,HOW THEY CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT SOMEONE WHO IS JUST A SOURCE AND O’REILLY GOING ALONG WITH IT, THE LAST TWO WEEKS I COULD NOT EVEN WATCH FOX EXCEPT SEAN, GRETA AND FOX AND FRIENDS, O’REILLY DID A TURNAROUD WHEN HE STARTED DEFENDING OBAMA WHEN LAURA INGRAHAM WOULD BRING UP SOMETHING AGAINST OBAMA LIKE HOW THE PRESS AND MEDIA WERE IGNORING ALL HIS PAST ASSOCIATIONS, IT MADE ME SICK, AND HE STILL DOES IT, JUST CANNOT WATCH HIM ANYMORE, AND CARL WAS A TERRIBLE REP FOR MCCAIN, SO MANY TIMES THERE WOULD BE MAJOR COVERING OBAMA ALL THE TIME AND DOING SUCH A GOOD JOB IN FACT TO GOOD, NOW HE ALSO DEFENDS OBAMA, WOULD NOT LET F & F’S SAY WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO SAY ABOUT HIM ON ELECTION DAY BY EMAIL, THAT WAS ON A BLOG, BUT HE DID COVER HIM WELL, HALF THE TIME CARL WAS NOT GOING ON NEAR AS MUCH AS MAJOR TO COVER MCCAIN, I GOT SO FRUSTATED, NOW THIS GOOD WOMEN PALIN IS BEING TRASHED AND CARL IS THE ONE PASSING ALL THE INFO WITH NO NAMES, AND FOX GOING ALONG WITH IT, GRETA’S BLOG WRITES ABOUT THIS AND SHE DOES NOT LIKE IT AT ALL, I HAVE EMAILED FOX AND JUST WILL NOT WATCH FOR AWHILE, THEY ARE JUST GOING ALONG WITH OBAMA TO MUCH. WILL WATCH SEAN AND GRETA AND THAT’S IT!!!!!! I LOVED PALIN, SHE WORKED HER HEART OUT, AND THEY TRASH HER NOW, THEY WANT TO BLAME SOMEONE FOR LOSING. I DO NOT THINK ROMNEY’S PEOPLE ARE LEAKING ANY OF THIS, HEARD THAT MAYBE IT WAS THEM, DOUBT IT. LEAVE PALIN ALONE FOX NEWS!!!!! BY THE WAY RUSH TALKED ABOUT THIS ALSO……..
November 6th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
As I said somewhere before…the GOP needs a timeout so they can rid themselves of the parasites that plague them. Regarding the clothes. Wasilla is not New York. It’s a tightknit community and I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to see the entire town turn out to greet them on their arrival.
And put them right back on the plane.
November 6th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Sandra:
Fox is no friend of Obama. However, they are friends of the upper GOP brass. The GOP heads are known to have looked down on Palin et al.
Jack:
What you are calling parasites are often the heart and soul of the party. The “hockey mom” bit was WWE theatre, nothing more. Palin is probably being punished because she was a pain to deal with and was never slated for greatness in the first place.
If you think about it, why choose a running mate from a remote, resource-based state? If you screw that person over, (s)he doesn’t have much legal recourse. Moreover, the GOP in Alaska is a basket-case - completely at war with itself. Conversely, pinning the blame on a well-connected GOP memeber like Mitt Romney could have caused a major internal riff.
The old boys club never took her seriously to begin with.
November 6th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
That should be “political recourse”
November 6th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
“What you are calling parasites are often the heart and soul of the party.”
Exactly…parasites who like to control.
Fire.Them.All.
November 6th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
“The old boys club never took her seriously……”
I am going to suggest that they took her VERY seriously.
Thats why the smear job.
Governor Palin was not, is not, a friend of “the old boys club”, and she didnt hide it.
When you say the GOP in Alaska is a mess, could it not be because she is rooting out the rot in that club?
Cynapse, i would be checking the sources of your information if i were you. There is nothing but rumors by “unnamed sources”, and until somebody is prepared to go on the record and be questioned, I will not believe any of it.
It seems to me that you are anxious to believe the worst about Governor Palin, but then you are in good company, lol. I will admit that my starting out point is to believe the best, not only of Governor Palin, but of anyone, until i get FACTS to prove otherwise.
November 6th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
The national GOP had little to gain from smearing Sarah Palin, Lee. They were trying to win an election after all. Palin’s main attribute was the ability to pull in the hardcore evangelicals and dixie-forever crowd. However, she was not considered a first-class GOP member. I recall watching a YouTube video of GOP insiders sneering during her initial campaign speech.
The “parasites” will never be fired because Sarah Palin and anyone like her can only appeal to the fundamentalist faithful. That’s about 200 EC votes max. Outside of that she has a repulsion factor even greater than Hillary’s, which is something the GOP can’t afford when popular votes have been very close to 50/50 in recent times.
November 6th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Cynapse - do you then support “old boys clubs” running your country? Scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours types? Even a remotely rigged method of doing things like that? Both the parties operate the same way, so why are you so disparaging of SP? What is your real reason, don’t like a woman running things? She seems to be doing quite well in ALASKA, despite the efforts to downplay her success. How’s your life going, you have any issues we should be aware of to take your spin with a grain of salt? Or do you lump yourself in the same basket with the other SP witch hunters?
November 6th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
A select few are dumping on Palin, but she is a smart capable gal.
The proposition that Sarah Palin cost John McCain votes is nonsense. Those on the extreme left wouldn’t have voted Republican in any case. Sarah charged up the core voters and John appealed to the middle road. In the end the combined ticket still pulled up 55.6 million votes. Nowhere near a complete blowout.
Notably the Same Sex Marriage ban ballots were won in California (no less), Arizona and Florida. The proposition that social conservatism, even in normally libertine California, was a tipping point on the ticket is not born out by these referendums.
As Mark Twain would have it, vis a vis social and fiscal conservatism is hardly dead:
“The news of my demise is greatly exaggerated.”
In my view, the worst financial crisis in some 80 odd years, would be a better bet. The hurricane just happened to land in the middle of the election.
Considering the McCain/Palin ticket was outspent by 5 to 1, and some discontent with now 8 years of a Bush presidency, the Republican ticket was getting ‘long in the tooth’ in ‘guilt by association’ rightly or wrongly. In the longer run, history may in fact be kinder to Bush than the MSM cheer leading squad.
The McCain/Palin ticket probably did as well as one could reasonably expect given the headwinds they were fighting.
Take the loss graciously, retool, regroup, refocus and be ready for 2010.
The blame game is for poor sports.
Cheers
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November 6th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
For what it’s worth, I’ll admit I had a bad impression from the start. That first speech was WWE fluff and some of her political/social beliefs indicated that dogma trumped logic in her mind. She seemed good to bring a certain demographic to the table but useless outside of that. Apparently I was in good company in that belief …
She actually moved my support away from McCain, not towards him.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
jt:
Sounds like you’re taking this personally.
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend” may have worked as an approach in the ancient Arab civilizations where the line was conceived, but it’s not much good now.
I hate the old boys’ club more than any of you and for reasons none of you will fully grasp. That does NOT mean that every alternative is automatically better. Some are worse. Sarah Palin appealed to the worst kind of Christian fundamentalist and did not shy away from using ethnic innuendo or hyper-partisanship to rally her troops. Her intellect and knowledge of world affairs was visibly lacking and she admitted that she didn’t even know the nature of the job she was chasing. From my viewpoint she’d have been even worse in power than the old boys club.
Other examples of useless “mavericks”:
-Ron Paul
-Ralph Nader
-Al Sharpton
-Cynthia McKinney
-David Duke
November 6th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Cynapse…
Check your mail. I just sent you a message.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Can’t get to mail for awhile. If it is urgent, can you make a post and save it drafts (ie not publish)? I can read it on your site admin.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Maybe they have to trash her because they are afraid of her.
And how much was she advised and molded by the old boys club. They should have left her on her own. Who wrote her speeches.
Who planned her itinery. Did they make her out to be stupid on purpose, they are afraid of her.
Will she come back to haunt them in a few years, maybe.
Notice Nader is a done menace. Probably never hear of him again.
Now Palin can ignore all the mainland USA when they need oil and give those contracts to Canada and Russia.
Those bashing her should remember, Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. I bet she learned lots of secrets in the past few months.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Cynapse Says:
“She actually moved my support away from McCain, not towards him.”
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Well of course she did Cynapse,and why wouldn’t she,after all your not really a Conservative.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Never claimed to be. Certainly not your kind (gun-toting bigot) - most people don’t really fit your description of “conservative”, but liberals love highlighting the Mr.G’s in the crowd to scare the middle.
The first comment you ever made about Palin was basically sexual innuendo. I wonder how many males would be following her to the ends of the earth if not for the cheesecake factor, since someone brought up sexism.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
“Can’t get to mail for awhile.’
Not urgent. When you have time.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
I have great admiration for Sarah Palin. The Republicans deserve to lose if this is the way they treat women. Obviously these people working on McCains campaigne set her up to be attacked. Shame.
November 6th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
The one point that the GOP is ignoring in all this smear is they asked “her ” to be on the ticket. She did her duty. She was true to herself. No fakery there.
And, that was a refreshing change to Hillary Clinton — remember the woman who wanted power so badly that she put up with a many times over adulterous husband. I have no respect for that kind of female behaviour — it’s okay to walk all over me as long as I have my turn at being president.
No, I may not have agreed with everything Palin said or did, but this woman is a true feminist. I suspect many — men and women alike — don’t understand this.
In fact, if not for her stand on abortion and sex education, she could not have been stopped because she speaks to the heart of how most women feel — career, kids, husband, all of it.
I hope she ignores it all and simply gets back into her life.
To me the crux of the matter is that this whole matter is a disgusting trash and hatchet job for someone who didn’t ask for it and doesn’t deserve it.
November 6th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Interesting. I hadn’t read either MaryT’s or Fay’s before I wrote my comment. The way women feel is definitely different than some men. Not all since Jack has always expressed respect for Palin.
But, hey, isn’t that why we like him? LOL
November 6th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Cynapse: (Gun Toting Bigot)
Cynapse, as usual, the first one to resort to name calling and sterotyping. Nobody, that I have read on this site, is as predictably bigoted, racist, and ignorant of other peoples beliefs as you are Sir. Where do you come from and how can we send you back?
November 6th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
While Cynapse doesn’t need me to defend him, he was born in Canada and is every bit as Canadian as anyone else. He just doesn’t like bigotry. So, I find it interesting that you refer to him that way.
I think it is more likely he simply has a difference of opinion and likely I don’t know of other “discussions” the two of you have had.
The other thing is that Cynapse loves to bait people into a good debate. And, you bit the hook!
But, I have to tell you, Jack and I definitely have a soft spot for this guy. You have no idea what he does for us. Manages our sites and is always there for us when we need him.
Now, do I always agree with him? No. But, he’s definitely got to you and is likely laughing. Mind you, he probably hasn’t read your comment yet because he will be on his way home from work.
Let’s all just take a deep breath.
November 6th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
“Agreed”, Sandy.
November 6th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
Cynapse oozes Bigotry. It’s just that his is the acceptable kind. Anti White Male. Anti Christian. Anti Conservative. All acceptable in his world. Which is why I asked, where do you come from? What gives you the right to slander people you know nothing about?
November 6th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Bazoo:
Have you read Mr G’s posts? He does not like immigrants and minorities and is not shy to say so. Even my usual opponents (eg Mac) know this.
Anti-White male? Haha, I’m 1/8 Scottish with a non-slave Celtic name.
Anti-Christian? Haha, I was raised Catholic.
Anti-Conservative? Haha, I voted Harper. Twice
What I am anti is redneck, which is a state of mind and chosen path of action, rather than a demographic trait. So I attack, just as you attack anything you call “liberal” - and I do not believe you know personally everyone who wears that label. Admittedly, it is very satisfying to attack those who base their beliefs on attacking others for the unforgivable crime of existing in the form that God gave them. I make no apologies for linguistic proficiency, and generally the only ones who genuinely get offended are those who can’t keep up. And you only seem to appear when I’m doing a good job (though never for any constructive conversations). Toodles.
November 6th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Dang, Sandy and Jack know me quite well. Did just in fact get home. Heh. Jack I answered your mail - full steam ahead!
November 6th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Just read it…have a safe trip (I’m laughing).
November 6th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
“Linguistic Proficiency” Oh that makes the ignorance you spew about thenpeople you call Rednecks all OK then. In your mind just how do you define Redneck? I can keep up just fine thank you. I show up just to rap your knuckles now and then. You are a little self important as well I see.
Toodles to you too.
November 6th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
“Cynapse oozes Bigotry.”
No he doesn’t Bazoo. You do.
Wake up and smell the roses. You’re locked into your tiny little bubble and it needs to be popped.
November 6th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
I stand by my comments Jack. On every topic that Cynapse posts he answers those that dissagree with him with the same tactic. Name calling. And now you join him knowing nothing of me. Good of you to defend him though.
November 6th, 2008 at 8:43 pm
“I stand by my comments Jack.”
Fair enough. Cynapse doesn’t need me to defend him but I just want to tone the rhetoric down a bit.
November 6th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Cynapse - I’m going along with Sandy on this one. This lady, was teated like “white trash” by the mainstream, on both sides it seems. She’s running Alaska, which is more than what the O has ever done, but like all “classless” societies, we ain’t classless, are we? Like people who hail from ALAAAAASKA!
That’s how you came on - Cynapse. There was a little anti-woman there, and a little Hahvahd snobbery. I guess she’s not too refined for your kind of polytician. She did her job. You’re entitled to your opinion. She is used to operating in an environment (Alaska) where what you see is what you get. No MBA’s need apply. If you had one, you wouldn’t be living in ALASKA.
November 6th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
It was I who suggested Palin was set up for the fall. “Kim Campbelled” was the term I used. The Republicans pretty well knew they were toast and who would want to be on the losing side? That would be their last chance at glory.
It was obvious from the start she was simply not up to the job. As much as the media tried to shine a good light on her, there just wasn’t anything there to see. To suggest she could run for president is a cruel joke. People were wowed by her nomination speech only to find out, she simply read it. It was down hill from there. She was setup, took the fall and I’m sure there’ll be some reward. If McCain had of had a sharp running mate it would undoubtedly been a closer race. Unfortunately it’ll be a long time before a woman runs for president of the USA
November 6th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
Governor Palin is intelligent, she comprehends big pictures. Sad to observe that most of the ‘bigshots’ in the country are not intelligent, they are ‘educated’. Educated people can use four syllable words and spew anachronisms but they cannot explain the mechanisms of anything. Governor Palin understands how economies of free nations work; she also knows how the political leaders can help rather than hinder prosperity. Governments in free nations do not offer bed pans to people who are capable of walking to a toilet!! Free nations are economically governed by the citizens; the citizens decide the political freedom they wish to have by electing politicians to make laws on their behalf to enshrine the political participation in the election of politicians. Social equality is always the responsibility of individuals, in a free nation. Governor Palin understands this concept and follows it to the T. She governs as she is ordered by the people of Alaska (I have observed this), she would not be ‘crushed’, personally, if she lost an election because she does not identify with her office. If she saw someone more capable than she knows herself to be, running for her office and winning - she would be more than happy to concede to that person. And why not - being a public servant is not a desirable job for intelligent people! If a person does care about their nation and their family; however, one feels compelled to try to stop wannabee tyrants and carpetbaggers. Someone has to step up to the plate to stop corruption before it takes over the decent lives of all the citizens in a free nation. Intelligent people always think that if the citizens of a free nation have access to information about corruption and greed in the public servant quarter, the citizens will fire the thieving, lying servants. Agendas are foreign motives to intelligent people because they do not need agendas, they deal in Truth and believe that there is nothing else of worth.
The sneering treatment, by media and ’star’ wannabees in GOP, of Governor Palin proves that the spoiled ‘entitled’ citizens of the USA are much like the hapless, vindictive supporters of the Puffins/Dippers in Canada. These people want to ’spread the wealth around’ as long as it is not their wealth that is spread. To ensure that their own illgotten wealth is safe from the grubby fingers of the ‘pipple’, they set up agendas and protectionist networks (msm). The power mongers want other people to pay for their self wealth creating programs (that will gain, for them, economic power over others)because the power mongers know that an enlightened electorate is the mortal enemy of slavery. Governor Palin poses a treat to all the ‘entitled to their entitlements’ minions in high paid places (esp the media clowns who think of themselves as ’stars’ and feel ‘entitled’ to the worship of viewers in TV land).
Governor Palin put her name forward because she knew she could help the citizens of America empower themselves, she was willing and able to work for them; the ‘educated’ snobs knew that she was capable of helping the citizens to prosper without being beholden to governments or media chattering: that is why they all attacked her. Governor Palin is not the loser, the American citizens are the losers and I feel sorry for them. Governor Palin has my respect and my support, the media and the collaborators in the GOP are the ones we should all feel sorry for because they are the ‘useful idiots’ that the dark side so adores…as long as they are usefull..useful idiots are only useful when the battles are being staged; they are dangerous baggage when the war is over.
God Bless America and it’s shining lights of hope and good will, like Governor Palin and our own Prime Minister Stephen Harper. She gave me and millions of people like me hope for the future, for as long as there are people of such refined
intelligence and profound good will to others willing to work for the free people of a nation we have the will not to fold under the grinding heel of tyranny.
Governor Palin does not need the VP job but America needed her intelligence in that office. My heart morns for what America lost on Nov 4. It was a sad day for all free people.
November 6th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
Well said Jema.
I am struck by the fact that many people buy into the Media hype, without a thought that the media could be wrong, or even dishonest.
Its not hard to check the Facts.
The dishonesty displayed during this campaign is nothing short of criminal. I have never seen such hysterical defamation of a good person.
When Palin was selected to run for VP, several things kicked in:
DEms were horrified that their victory might be lost.
Old Boys could see the end of their influence.
Mitt Romney could see his hopes for 2012 dashed.
And then there were the “elites”, who postulated that anyone not from a background suitable to them could not be appropriate.
People still claim her “not readiness”, not a person took a look at Obamas not readiness.
And of course , the Media, being completely in the tank for Obama, performed their assigned tasks.
The whole thing is sickening.
November 6th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
I just have one question: What’s wrong with being a redneck?
LOL
November 6th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Sarah Palin AND Hillary Clinton were treated like crap. I’m sure this has frightened many other women from even trying.
I remain a huge fan of Sarah Palin. And nobody’s gonna talk me out of that.
November 6th, 2008 at 11:26 pm
Soccermom, im with you
November 6th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Agree also with soccermom - I say it’s time the “old boys” were “old news” once and for all. In Canada also.
Perhaps next election an all female ticket?
November 7th, 2008 at 12:11 am
I stand by my comments Jack. On every topic that Cynapse posts he answers those that dissagree with him with the same tactic.
Ever thought it might be that you merely can’t ingest your own medicine? It seems the only people who are ever truly offended are the ones most apt to label and slander in the first place. If you dish it out, be prepared to take it.
Plenty of people disagree vehemently and never receive the label. Marinate on that for awhile.
November 7th, 2008 at 12:20 am
soccermom:
This is what’s wrong with it.
That kind of behaviour can’t really be blamed on any particular ethnic group or even “conservatives”. That’s culture. Unfortunately too many people think they can espouse these beliefs and call themselves conservatives because the liberals hate what they have to say. You’re poison to your own movement, just as the leftist rioters discredit more left-leaning movements. As much as you may hate the Cynapses on these boards … we’re doing you a favour in the long run.
November 7th, 2008 at 12:22 am
An all-female tickets sounds fine, btw. Better yet, make it female Prez candidates on both sides. This way, women can cheer no matter what and just vote on the issues.
November 7th, 2008 at 12:48 am
Whoa there, Cynapse, nobody hates the Cynapses on this board.
Disagreement is not hate.
Even vehement disagreement, lol.
November 7th, 2008 at 12:54 am
Maybe not YOU, but some people …
And listen, it is not taken personally. There’s a reason people say “never discuss politics or religion with your friends”. We’re on a board that discusses these things nearly exclusively. Tempers are bound to fray from time to time.
As far as I’m concerned, JNW is filling its mandate by allowing opinions and voices one can’t find on the major media news sources. It’s grassroots conservative activism and enhances the quality of Canadian political discourse … whether or not the reader agrees with everything posted.
Olive Branch: Palin is indeed being over-credited for the loss. The McCain camp chose her. They’re also supposed to direct the flow of events. They also should have been more careful in monitoring the credit cards. A military man, McCain no doubt knows that a general is responsible for the conduct of the troops. This public division is unprofessional and will probably hurt the GOP brass more than it will hurt Palin.
And with that … zzzz (good night)
November 7th, 2008 at 12:59 am
nevermind
November 7th, 2008 at 1:03 am
Where the hell is McCain? He should get to the bottom of this (probably untrue) nonsense. Cameron is a disappointment, O’Reily is ingratiating himself with the winners and pretending he sells news. The only real story is who is spreading this crap, why, is it true, and why the hell isn’t McCain standing up for this woman whose life he has almost singlehandedly managed to ruin.
November 7th, 2008 at 1:24 am
Cynapse, I think that you are well respected by people on this site. Hate is a very strong word and I have never seen it displayed here on Jack’s Newswatch. This is a positive site, IMO, dedicated to solving problems that reader’s perceived through open discussion. ‘Very helpful’ would say Socrates.
I perceive the same duplicity in the media and the ‘old boy’s and girl’s club’as you Lee, Voca and Soccer Mom. The most vitriol that I saw for Governor Palin came from the crusty gals who think they have a thick, sophisticated hide (capable of aborting a child on the way to the office; without blinking (or even brushing a tear). I think that corruption and meanness bordering on cruelty, is gender neutral.
November 7th, 2008 at 2:18 am
My origimal point, Cynapse, that it is most often you doing the Labeling and Slandering. You cannot be seen to be fighting this type of disrespect for diverse opinions when you are guilty of it yourself. Right wing fundamentalist Christian gun owners have as much right to their lifestyle as you do. And they have every right to advance their cause. BTW only one of those labels apply to me. Respectfully, Goodnight.
November 7th, 2008 at 2:59 am
Quote Bazoo: ” Right wing fundamentalist Christian gun owners have as much right to their lifestyle as you do. And they have every right to advance their cause. BTW only one of those labels apply to me.”
Not that I want to pile on to Cynapse but gratuitous labelling of ” Gun Owners ” as de facto intolerant or racist is a form of stereotyping in itself as bad to me as being a racist.( Not mad or offended, but a little hurt and disappointed ! ).
By the way I’m an Agnostic Libertarian Gunowner with a University education in fine arts !
November 7th, 2008 at 8:06 am
Wow, lots of opinions on this one.
Palin wasn’t as up to par as they would have liked, but she learned quickly.
Palin also drew in women where the old white guy couldn’t.
Palin is what gave McCain the last few months publicity and without here his vote would have been a lot lower.
But there is always a need to blame someone else in the political world, just ask Paul Martin.
Palin will be back, the public will demand it.
November 7th, 2008 at 8:45 am
Right wing fundamentalist Christian gun owners have as much right to their lifestyle as you do. And they have every right to advance their cause.
Legally, you are correct. However, that does not mean they’re not dangerous. Luckily, we are in North America where one does have the freedom to express his opinions and be challenged on them. I’ve read enough from these people and had enough encounters to know that their existence is toxic to the North American landscape due to their intolerance. You may decide my approach is heavy-handed but due to their nature it is necessary - not unlike how the US military must use questionable tactics if they want to defeat the equally fundamentalist Taliban on the battle field. These fundamentalists (like all fundamentalists) want to take away rights that people have fought very hard for and re-stratify society in a way that would reduce some people to prisoners and others to chattel.
It’s not merely a matter of “disagreeing” with another’s approach they way, say, I disagree with liberal blacks (and liberals in general) about handing out pure money in the form of welfare. The threat is existential in the long run. To loosely quote both an Israeli friend and popular saying, put 100 Israelis in a room and you’ll get 110 opinions on any topic … except whether they want to continue living.
November 7th, 2008 at 8:50 am
It is very curious that there is still a concerted attack against Sarah Palin.
She is a defeated vice presidential candidate who has gone home. One would think that an investigation of the winners would be more in order.
The only reason I can see for this disgraceful activity on the part of the media is because she is a genuine Christian who tries to live her faith as she understands it. A very scary person indeed!!
The attack began the moment she was chosen. The mobs of lawyers and journalists were released to examine every aspect of her life as soon as she was selected. Amazingly, nothing of this nature has been done concerning Mr. Obama and nothing is being done now. In his case the silence is deafening.
In Mrs. Palin’s case the reporters came up with nothing so they made up stuff. The first story was that her disabled child was not hers. Obviously, fact checking was not a media strong point. Days after the story was discredited our state owned CBC was still proposing this story as fact.
The attacks continued from there. She is supposed to have banned books from the library. She is also supposed to have abused her position as governor in getting an abusive police officer fired, and so on. Those reporters seem to have been very careless in their work. The only goal seems to have been to discredit a decent person.
She was interviewed by Ms. Couric and asked questions that I doubt most congressmen could have answered. When Mr Obama appeared he was asked puffball questions equivalent to “How do you feel your campaign is going?” This set-up was an attempt to make her appear as a moron.
The attack was continued in another interview where quotations were taken out of context which totally reversed the meaning. The interviewer refused to give the attribution when he was asked. No wonder! The actual author of the quote was horrified. Anyone who thinks the media was unbiased should watch that interview. It was a disgrace.
Since so little could be found that was truly wrong in her life and career and the lies were discredited one after another they attacked her wardrobe. True, a huge sum was spent by ordinary standards. The question has to be asked: who took her shopping? I don’t think she chose the destination. The handlers obviously did not take her to Wal-Mart. In fact, the sum spent was a tiny fraction of what is spent for costumes for any Hollywood gala The money was also a microscopic part of the overall party budget. That budget was voluntarily donated. In the meantime Congress has extracted monstrous sums from taxpayers to help their rich friends. Any attack on that activity has dropped off the media radar. Curious?
In the meantime questions that should be asked of the person who will lead the nation have been ignored.. I have a few suggeations.
1. Where is Mr. Obama’s genuine birth certificate?
2. Any candidate for president has provided extensive medical records. Where are those of Mr. Obama?
3. Mrs. Palin’s college career was carefully examined. What about that of Mr. Obama? There seems to be a total blank for that period.
4. Mr. Obama seems to have had some very peculiar associates. Questions about his career path seem to be prohibited. Maybe they should be examined instead of Mrs. Palin’s shopping. Since he is to assume such an important position those he associated with would seem to be of interest.
The continued attacks on Mrs. Palin strike me as peculiar now that she has been eliminated from contention.
Should not the future incumbent be investigated at least as thoroughly now that he holds a position which will be crucial for the world?
November 7th, 2008 at 9:15 am
What you’re all forgetting is that Canada had its own Sarah Palin last election.
His name was Stefan Dion.
November 7th, 2008 at 9:21 am
Palin represented the 3rd wave of feminism. You know the women who believe in themselves without have to walk all over a man while wearing a power suit.
This is a new Era in true gender equality, and Palin has been martyred by American women and men.
If McCain rips her apart, the public will turn on him and his party for it.
November 7th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Voca, i am assuming that is a lame attempt at humor.
To equate this accomplished woman to that inept silly person is laughable.
November 7th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Cynapse; “their existance is toxic to the North American Landscape”
What other group of people could you possibly say this about without a CHRC investigation.
I must have missed the News Report about the Mormons flying planes into buildings. Sheeehs…
November 7th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Thank-you Lee, Your response was in my mind - you said it better.
Perhaps Stockwell Day could be a comparable Canadian politician; I was horrified at the words and deeds of the media, the red Tories and some Reform M.P.s after Stockwell Day was elected leader of the opposition (was Manning behind some of it?). Stockwell Day, like Governor Palin, is armed with a belief in God. Media hates people who don’t consider men/women, of their choice, ‘Gods’. A strong belief in the good Lord is a treat to those who operate on the ‘fear’ factor.
PMSH defeated Stockwell Day after the supposed charactor assinination of Mr. Day (one the media hoped would bury the Reform Party forever) but honored him by giving him a prominent cabinet post in the first mandate PMSH won. An absence of malice is a rare and beautiful thing; especially in a Prime Minister.
The media types do not interview Stockwell Day often any more because he treats them to cool ‘common’ courtesy, the way sensible people treat snarling, half mad animals. Stockwell never ‘explains’ or ‘defends’ he just delivers the facts - cold and hard. Media, like ‘mad dogs’ like the smell of fear, they are speechless when dealing with facts. Governor Palin will now be most capable of delivering a bullet, especially when dealing with those firing blanks.
As My Mom always says ‘Live and Learn’.